tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9177479069889847827.post1764432066205945929..comments2024-03-22T21:16:41.871-04:00Comments on A Grave Interest: Remains of the Day – Relocating a BodyJoy Neighborshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06517577511576153582noreply@blogger.comBlogger56125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9177479069889847827.post-4486015568167346632020-10-14T10:04:52.109-04:002020-10-14T10:04:52.109-04:00Ive discovered that my great-great grandmother was...Ive discovered that my great-great grandmother was stolen as a child from her tribe and given to a white family. I want her to be returned to her tribe and buried properly with her people. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9177479069889847827.post-67310978415445885902020-09-28T16:22:36.739-04:002020-09-28T16:22:36.739-04:00Hi Rachel, I applaud you for wanting to find a way...Hi Rachel, I applaud you for wanting to find a way to remember not only your g-g-grandfather but also the others buried in that field, but after more than a century, there is little left to move. Your idea of a memorial wall is wonderful. You might contact the local Odd Fellows group to see if they would be interested in helping raise funds for the remembrance wall. They in turn could contact the state or national organization and see if more members are interested in assisting. If not, you could contact the local or regional newspaper or media outlet and see if anyone wants to do a human interest story about this. With October just around the corner, this might spark some interest. There are also crowd funding sites if you are comfortable with setting up the page and asking for funds yourself. A final thought would be to contact the Veterans Administration (https://www.va.gov)to see about getting a military stone placed where your family is buried as a remembrance. Good luck with this! You are right when you say, "They deserve better." Thank you for stepping up to find a way to do that. Best, JoyJoy Neighborshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06517577511576153582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9177479069889847827.post-421328366164657902020-09-23T00:52:27.884-04:002020-09-23T00:52:27.884-04:00Hi Joy! Here is what is going on. My great great g...Hi Joy! Here is what is going on. My great great grandfather was a civil war veteran and was buried at Odd Fellows Cemetery in Philadelphia, PA. The government gave him a veterans headstone. In 1951 they demolished the cemetery and the remains are to be at Lawnview Cemetery, Susquehanna lot. They disposed of or sold the grave stones and claim to have moved all the bodies. However they occasionally find some when doing construction in that area. They found some a few years ago and the construction crew just covered it back up to be left under a playground. Anyway they gave everyone a grave number so they say he is in grave 74, but the whole thing is an unmarked feild with thousands of displaced bodies. I don't feel right about the whole thing. I read that after so much time there may only be a patch of discolored dirt left of him. He died in 1871. Part of me wanted to see about moving what they could even if it was discolored dirt, but im not confident that they even separated the bodies and put them where they claimed. So I suppose he can't really be moved to the plot with the rest of his family. Is it worth looking into the potential movement of remains further or is it futile to spend the money on remains that may be just dust? I would like your opinion. Could I hire someone to use one of those machines to see if anything is in his spot? Although after 150 years perhaps the casket would be gone as well? If I had my way I would put a large statue with a wall of names on the lawn with the name of every person unmarked in that feild. Sometimes I wonder if anyone could put in a large monument and could I ever fundraise enough to do that when most of these people were forgotten. Or give them all flat stones. The cemetery took 65,000 remains and I dont know how many are in that particular feild, but what I do know is they deserved better. My great great grandfather got a medal of honor and since 1951 he has been in an unmarked feild. There is one rusty sign saying the people from odd fellows were put here. Let me know your opinion on if it's worth looking into moving. Thank you!Rachaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05807712357309133389noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9177479069889847827.post-48892481238312424352020-09-17T15:59:00.697-04:002020-09-17T15:59:00.697-04:00It depends on the type of wood used. I'd sugge...It depends on the type of wood used. I'd suggest talking with the sexton of the church cemetery and see if he or she will assist you in getting the remains moved to that burial ground. Even if the box has begun to disintegrate, they can take the surrounding soil and move it to the church cemetery.Good luck!Joy Neighborshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06517577511576153582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9177479069889847827.post-12822320701674399062020-09-17T15:52:05.415-04:002020-09-17T15:52:05.415-04:00Wow! I'm so sorry you and your siblings are go...Wow! I'm so sorry you and your siblings are going through this. I would suggest contacting an attorney on this one; someone who deals with family and divorce law. Who has the right to the remains and their final interment may end up being the decision of a judge. Best of luck!Joy Neighborshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06517577511576153582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9177479069889847827.post-91119874960765584412020-07-24T10:48:06.532-04:002020-07-24T10:48:06.532-04:00My husbands father recently died. Not his family!My husbands father recently died. Not his family!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15637854865826514879noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9177479069889847827.post-88952640170507000732020-07-24T10:47:06.749-04:002020-07-24T10:47:06.749-04:00My husband passed away 21 years ago. He was cremat...My husband passed away 21 years ago. He was cremated and buried in a plot on his family's farmland. It was a newly purchased piece of land and I assumed at the time that the rest of the family would eventually be buried there as well. As it turns out my husbands family recently died and Grandpa and Grandma bought plots in the Church cemetery. Now Grandma and I are wondering if we should move the cremains to the church cemetery to be close to his dad. I believe we buried the cremains in a wooden box that a co worker made. After 20 years is there anything left? Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15637854865826514879noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9177479069889847827.post-22705630156625037302020-06-21T10:51:37.810-04:002020-06-21T10:51:37.810-04:00My father passed away April 7 (58)this year and wa...My father passed away April 7 (58)this year and was cremated the same week. During this time my siblings and I were in despair over the sudden loss of our father and our step mother used that opportunity to orchestrate his cremation and burial site through us claiming that it is what he would have wanted according to her word alone. We later found out my father was planning to divorce her and everything she has been arranging was catering to what she wanted using my father's name and even paid the funds using his money he stashed away in secret from her so her name was to sign everything off. We also discussed me starting a campaign to pay for my father's headstone but she derailed our agreement by saying she wanted to pay for the whole thing so she could deface it with her name on the grave while she's still alive and well. Now that headstone is in the works and she threw my campaign out the window to deface my father's resting place. We are scared to visit our father now not only because she is trying to force us to waive our rights to our fathers estate as the surviving spouse but we also realized how dangerous she truly is and carries gardening scissors with her when she goes to his burial site. My main question would be would we be able to relocate his small casket of buried cremated remains even after the headstone is completed? We want to bury his remains near his closest sister in NY and bring a portion back to his mother in Peru. We are unsure if the funeral home that helped us with the burial will comply with our request because she is the surviving spouse and continues to play the act of the pitiful widow with ill intentions.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11562593739276263257noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9177479069889847827.post-41373347513614197472020-04-01T11:15:46.511-04:002020-04-01T11:15:46.511-04:00Sorry for your loss, Nancy. I would suggest you be...Sorry for your loss, Nancy. I would suggest you begin with the police that handled the case. Since it was 1980, there may be a retired detective that would be willing to talk with you and explain what would be needed to have this case reopened. You might also check with the cemetery for records to see if there's anything unusual about them. I'm not sure what to look for but I'd go ahead and check along with those at the funeral home just to make sure something wasn't noted that you weren't told about. Set an appointment with a forensic ME and get their advice as well before deciding how to proceed.<br />Good luck, and stay well! JoyJoy Neighborshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06517577511576153582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9177479069889847827.post-27130969442311827022020-03-09T17:35:37.243-04:002020-03-09T17:35:37.243-04:00nancytorres310@yahoo.com
Sorry for the error. nancytorres310@yahoo.com<br />Sorry for the error. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05966797422020029333noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9177479069889847827.post-48015824257909622052020-03-09T17:34:48.967-04:002020-03-09T17:34:48.967-04:00I would like to attach my email to the previous co...I would like to attach my email to the previous comment. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05966797422020029333noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9177479069889847827.post-38811525690490904542020-03-09T16:56:50.657-04:002020-03-09T16:56:50.657-04:00I'm not sure where to begin but here goes: My ...I'm not sure where to begin but here goes: My brother passed away in October of 1980 and the cause of death was undetermined. For reasons unknown to me since I was 9 yrs old at the time, his death was never investigated. My parents were devastated by his death. He is buried in a cemetary in Chicago,Il and I currently reside in Texas. My sisters and I want to get his cause of death changed from undetermined to homicide so we can begin an investigation. However, we understand we need to have his body exhumed and taken to a forensic medical examiner to perform an autopsy. I'm not sure if we start with the cemetary or hiring a forensic ME?? Any advice is helpful. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05966797422020029333noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9177479069889847827.post-39154241746076463492020-03-04T12:50:39.057-05:002020-03-04T12:50:39.057-05:00Wow, you have a lot going on. I'd check with t...Wow, you have a lot going on. I'd check with the cemetery as to who the monument company was that carved the stone. If they still exist, they should have the bill of sale. If not, check local genealogy and historical societies to see if those records ended up there. (State societies might also be a good place to search.) <br />As for the Catholic church, I'd go and speak with a local priest, possibly at the church your family belongs or belonged to. Explain the situation and see if there is someone who can assist you in gaining the approval you need to move the deceased. Maybe even a mediator. Good luck! Joy Neighborshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06517577511576153582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9177479069889847827.post-85527150027222521882020-02-25T15:35:06.119-05:002020-02-25T15:35:06.119-05:00My mother is buried in a family plot with her moth...My mother is buried in a family plot with her mother and father. A space was also purchased for my father in 1960 after my mother's suicide. My father later remarried. In 1991, my father passed away and my step-mother had him buried in another cemetery in her family plot. My Dad had always told my sister and I that he had purchased the graves and the grave monument. Fast forward to today. My aunt, who is my mother's sister wants to be buried in the grave that was originally purchased for my dad. We told her that my sister planned on using that grave and we were told by the cemetery that we owned those graves. Well, we had a recent argument with my aunts and cousin were they said my dad murdered my mother and that they were going to have my dad's name taken off of the grave monument. We told them it did not belong to them and they would be vandalizing it to deface it. So I went to the cemetery to get something in writing and they gave me a paper stating that my grandparents actually paid for the graves, but we have nothing documenting who paid for the grave monument. Under the circumstances of how my aunts feel about my dad and the circumstances surrounding my mom's death, my sister and I want to have her body exhumed and purchase graves for her and my sister. We thought to avoid any more misunderstanding with our relatives, we would wait until our aunts pass away. They are in their late 80s and 90s. Our mother is buried in a Catholic cemetery. Besides the cost of the exhumation it looks like we will encounter objection from the Catholic church as well. Any suggestions?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17984056807439793201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9177479069889847827.post-46352920106761093802020-02-04T10:51:38.729-05:002020-02-04T10:51:38.729-05:00I would start by talking with the superintendent a...I would start by talking with the superintendent at the cemetery she's buried in. He or she will have overseen this process before and should be able to guide you on what is necessary. The fact that you're wanting to move her in state should make it easier. Good luck!Joy Neighborshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06517577511576153582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9177479069889847827.post-9254524203065205092020-02-01T21:45:51.507-05:002020-02-01T21:45:51.507-05:00My sister died and was cremated, her body was buri...My sister died and was cremated, her body was buried in one Cemetery but our family has decided we wanted her buried in a different Cemetery but I'm not sure how to go about doing that or if it's even legal. Basically how do I go about moving cremated remains from one Cemetery in Pennsylvania to another Cemetery in Pennsylvania that houses the majority of our families relatives?Pandorahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01760799055733777652noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9177479069889847827.post-35441007274630346652019-12-17T09:06:49.852-05:002019-12-17T09:06:49.852-05:00Links to the legal guidelines would be great. Links to the legal guidelines would be great. Stanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16093872953095512066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9177479069889847827.post-18928221909765639192019-12-17T09:05:45.515-05:002019-12-17T09:05:45.515-05:00I've done this once already, and it waa quite...I've done this once already, and it waa quite simple. I relocated my grandparents to a family church plot within the same state (Ga). While in the process of moving my Aunt to the same plot (again within the state Ga), I was met with a lot of resistance from the cemetery (Westview). They started demanding notarized documents etc. When I asked why, all they would say was that it was a state law. If so, I asked, why didn't Ga Memorial require the same? Still fighting with them. I feel a lawyer is next. Stanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16093872953095512066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9177479069889847827.post-16465657131051579532019-09-18T12:49:22.811-04:002019-09-18T12:49:22.811-04:00So sorry to hear of your situation. I'd start ...So sorry to hear of your situation. I'd start by checking with the cemetery to see who has the right to bury and remove remains in this plot. They should be able to tell you if the daughter has any rights to move her mother. If so, I'd contact an attorney and see what, if anything can be done. Many lawyers will offer a free session to discuss a case to see if it is something they want to take on. Good luck!Joy Neighborshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06517577511576153582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9177479069889847827.post-18577808961859316992019-09-17T18:47:20.245-04:002019-09-17T18:47:20.245-04:00my sister in law died and was cremated and was bur...my sister in law died and was cremated and was buried in N.Y. My brother died last week and he was supposed to be buried in the same grave as my sister in law. one of the daughters has now decided to move her mother to a different cemetery before her father can be buried with her. what can be done to stop her from moving her before we can bury my brother with her. The daughter has not had a relationship with her father since her mother died. Now she's trying to stop her parents from being buried together as was their wishes. can I and my sister, whom are brother and sister to the brother who has died recently, do anything to stop her from moving the ashes to another cemetery. she doesn't want us to know where she's moving her mother to, in order to prevent her father from being buried with her mother. what can we do to stop her. There are other sons alive that will give consent, but we as brother and sister to the brother that died doesn't consent. please help. desperate. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01466907183834655025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9177479069889847827.post-7415709131520276542019-08-08T19:53:35.904-04:002019-08-08T19:53:35.904-04:00anonymous 9th auganonymous 9th augAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03021009212601439790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9177479069889847827.post-41127572183167723842019-08-08T19:49:00.540-04:002019-08-08T19:49:00.540-04:00anonymous my sister has recently passed away i was...anonymous my sister has recently passed away i was so upset when i found out that next of kin has organised a cremation. i want her to be buried at the same cemertry has my parents but her ashes are going to be scattered at a different cemertry where her still born baby was buried in the 80's. how much will it cost to have baby moved to same cemertry has my parents so that my sister can have burial and still be with her baby.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03021009212601439790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9177479069889847827.post-59782217494282578352019-05-04T12:33:11.148-04:002019-05-04T12:33:11.148-04:00Another cheap way is to use a good metal detector....Another cheap way is to use a good metal detector. Most people were buried with a favorite ring, belt buckles, the casket has hinges, etc. DO NOT DIG! Only mark the boundaries with little flags and photograph with gps location.then contact proper authorities for investigation. Good luck.GANL DOChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00378894795518987946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9177479069889847827.post-82253281400529580042019-05-04T12:25:41.573-04:002019-05-04T12:25:41.573-04:00For better or worse, it is typically the choice of...For better or worse, it is typically the choice of the person who was the executor at the time of death (by law its usually the nearest blood relative or spouse). LEGAL standing will always take the lead rather than (oral family agreement). <br />NOW: For your husband...donate money to have a hiking trail, or a library research room, or a scholarship named after the brother. Its a great way to honor his memory and have a place your husband can physically visit. Remember, his spirit has moved on, his memory is whats important...good luck.GANL DOChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00378894795518987946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9177479069889847827.post-66332418837562805822019-03-25T11:13:41.617-04:002019-03-25T11:13:41.617-04:00I am so sorry your going through this situation. I...I am so sorry your going through this situation. I can't imagine how painful this is for you. Sending good thoughts for a quick and better solution. Joy Neighborshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06517577511576153582noreply@blogger.com